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PostPosted: 08 Jul 2012 10:51 am 
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What is it that you think is (or was) placed at Oak Island, FR?

btw, the reason for the 45th line of latitude passing through the Digby Gut in the early maps was because of Champlains inaccuracy in taking latitude readings during the 1604 exploration. When he sailed into the Digby Gut he wrote in his log that he was at 45 degrees of latitude, some 19 minutes off. Of course, for all intents and purposes this became the 45th parallel for the next several years.

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Frank,
Regarding your theory which I find very interesting,one thing took my notice and that was the bearing you gave for Herculis to Cygni at 56d 09m.Would that be the exact figure or is there a margin for error.The reason I ask is that through my own research regarding Nolan's Cross and the Welling Triangle on Oak Island, the bearing of 56d 16m is encrypted into both, along with the name of a certain person and the fraternity he belonged to.If you were to plot the bearing from Oak Island to Cygni at a distance of 2880 Statute miles,where would the destination point be and what would be the associated star or stars.

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PostPosted: 12 Jul 2012 2:27 am 
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I love the star charts very cool and great work!

I agree that Poussin is referring to Arcadia or Acadia if you take that R out
and this is a historical place on the maps of history during which Poussin lives

Arcadia was that Garden of Eden or path to China
Verrazano name it in 1524 Arcadia
in 1603 Champlain kept the name Arcadia which encompassed the Washington DC area
It sounds like in 1603 Champlain starts referring to the Nova Scotia area La Cadie or Acadia
http://books.google.com/books?id=ZnE0tjj9MbgC&pg=PA115&lpg=PA115&dq=Champlain+Arcadia&source=bl&ots=UJ61SUkfPy&sig=5pJjiejKfQZce6K8gbsYupLcdkY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2Cv-T6ysC6mq2gXpi93tDw&ved=0CEwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Champlain%20Arcadia&f=false


Poussin had great interest in Ovid

Ovid focuses on the gods and their interactions with mortals
the words on the tomb is written in Latin ....not French
the language of Rome

It is interesting the story of Washington DC ...the original Arcadia turned have Monuments like in Poussin's paintings
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Washington DC was an example that a country didn't need a King to rule
Now Acadia retained the French language French history and Catholicism ....
I think Acadia held a great secret which Poussin is trying to show the viewer who is interested

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Franck,
If you are referring to the letter W,then I'm afraid not as the person in question is Francis Bacon.The bearing given by the Cross and Triangle on OI at a distance of 2880miles gives a destination point 20miles NE of his home at Old Gorhambury House near St.Albans and considering their inability to accurately determine longitude during the period of 1626(Bacons death)-1651,which I've determined they had at 63d 31m,I think they came damn close.
I noticed that you determined the star positions for 1601,would they change for the period between 1626-1651?.
Cassiopeia does raise possibilities for Bacon in regard to the two supernovas of 1572 and 1604 but I was hoping for a connection between what you have and mine.

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Hi Franck,

I do not know a lot about stars, so I cannot give a comment.

But I can see, that you did a big job with a lot of work.

Did you buy any shares of the Oak Island Treasure Co. ? I hope not. :P

If it is there, it will be lost and we can close the thread. :(

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hans peper wrote:
Hi Franck,

I do not know a lot about stars, so I cannot give a comment.

But I can see, that you did a big job with a lot of work.

Did you buy any shares of the Oak Island Treasure Co. ? I hope not. :P

If it is there, it will be lost and we can close the thread. :(


Not lost Hans,they have been looking in the wrong place.


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Dave Wood wrote:
hans peper wrote:
Hi Franck,

I do not know a lot about stars, so I cannot give a comment.

But I can see, that you did a big job with a lot of work.

Did you buy any shares of the Oak Island Treasure Co. ? I hope not. :P

If it is there, it will be lost and we can close the thread. :(


Not lost Hans,they have been looking in the wrong place.


They triggerd the trap already in the beginning. And then its lost.

The only chance is to close all pits and holes and wait.
But nobody knows where all the holes are.

regards to the other side of the world.

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There never was a trap Hans.


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Dave Wood wrote:
There never was a trap Hans.


Yes Dave, I think, that the money pit was the trap. The pit is a part of the security system of Oak Island.

I remember that you follow my postings about the air locked vaults, and so you know what I mean. :|

But let us wait until Franck has told the whole story.
I am shure, that he has something more in his hand.

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Very interesting posts FR, Dave and Hans, and also very complicated. IM own HO, I believe the (or I guess I should say an) object of our attention is on the other side of the island in Annapolis Basin. Oak Island was, in my opinion, where the Knights Templars first located a port in 1308, which was moved into the Chester Basin area a little later on. A small fortress, or castle was built about 15 miles north, along the Gold River, from Mahone bay. This site was abandoned when French Catholic fisherman began to show up off the coast of Nova Scotia. The object (a religous object), was then taken by canoe (with a couple of minor portages) over Blue Mountain to Annapolis Basin, where it was hidden on a Mountain near Digby. Some of those remaining were assimilated into the local first nations tribes, and others went on there own way to other discoveries.
Well, its at least a Theory, isn't it? :wink:

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The MicMac Indians intermarried with the French Settlers and had formed blood alliances
The Acadians in the Great Expulsion moved to Louisiana and other French settlements
The MicMac and the Acadians were allies
The MicMac's have their own legends of Glooscap

So its not surprising that a monument to the Indians is at Martinville LA right in front of the church Saint Martins
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and one of the Saints in the church is an Indian woman

here is Genealogy that attests to the intermarriage
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/l/l/Sue--A-Allen/GENE6-0006.html

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Franck R wrote:
Dave Wood wrote:
The bearing given by the Cross and Triangle on OI at a distance of 2880miles gives a destination point 20miles NE of his home at Old Gorhambury House near St.Albans and considering their inability to accurately determine longitude during the period of 1626(Bacons death)-1651,which I've determined they had at 63d 31m,I think they came damn close.
Dave


Dave, take a look at this:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwPj4u7AMgwSWU9kVEFieTlWUE0/preview
http://shakespeareandoakisland.wordpress.com/2012/05/05/petter-amundsen-shakespeare-and-oak-island/

I think Nate, who I have been collaborating with, has found the same connection between the Oak Island cross and Gorhambury that you have found.

Franck


Just a quick reply for the moment,I feel like all my birthdays have come at once,finally someone who agrees with me.
The actual bearing used from Gorhambury house to OI is 286d 37m and is written in to the stem of the Cross in conjunction with the Triangle.Bacon was not interred in St.Michaels church as popularly thought,but buried within the grounds of Gorhambury estate and I think later removed between 1626-1651 and maybe re-buried on OI at a location I have in a 7 sided vault.

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Franck,
After a quick read from the links you provided,a snippet of information to entice your friend Nate regarding Nolan's Cross.The total of the distances between each of the boulders is 5100ft and the stem of the cross is set at 60d from True North.Use the Great circle route at a bearing of 60d@5100miles and see where it takes you.
Also I would really like to talk to you both in private.

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Franck R wrote:
wayward wrote:
Very interesting posts FR, Dave and Hans, and also very complicated. IM own HO, I believe the (or I guess I should say an) object of our attention is on the other side of the island in Annapolis Basin. Oak Island was, in my opinion, where the Knights Templars first located a port in 1308, which was moved into the Chester Basin area a little later on. A small fortress, or castle was built about 15 miles north, along the Gold River, from Mahone bay. This site was abandoned when French Catholic fisherman began to show up off the coast of Nova Scotia. The object (a religous object), was then taken by canoe (with a couple of minor portages) over Blue Mountain to Annapolis Basin, where it was hidden on a Mountain near Digby. Some of those remaining were assimilated into the local first nations tribes, and others went on there own way to other discoveries.
Well, its at least a Theory, isn't it? :wink:


As you have seen, it is my theory that "Et in Arcadia Ego" guides us to the area where we find Oak Island, but we need some clues in the local geography to point directly to the island. I will try to check out your suggestions.




You believe that it is your theory that leads to Oak Island and Nova Scotia from Poussin? Sorry to disappoint, but there are many who have traveled that road.

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wayward wrote:
You believe that it is your theory that leads to Oak Island and Nova Scotia from Poussin? Sorry to disappoint, but there are many who have traveled that road.


By "my theory" I just meant that this is what I believe. I am particularly influenced by Petter Amundsen's similar ideas.


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Well it really is nice to find a group that have theories about Poussins Arcadia meaning Nova Scotia

So who is in our group
Wayward Lovuian Frank ,Dave are you in and Hans are you in

because the fact is and I belivee we all agree there was an Arcadia turned Acadia during Poussin's time
right guys

and this Arcadia was a beautiful country of trees and mountains and untamed
there was no Christianity there but the Indian gods

and I like Franks star idea he did lots of work on it

Now I can tell you there is documentation by archeologists that there was a highway or road that relics were brought from
France to America
and why would they do this
because the French Revolution was destroying all the Holy places.....and like Wayward points out the Crusaders/Templars were escaping from the
Inquisition and the Kings who bowed to the POPE

The Acadians brought their legends and myths with them

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Iovuian,
I've concentrated more on the geometry of Oak Island and it's connection to Bacon rather than where Arcadia is,so on that subject I'm open to suggestions and keep an open mind to various theories.

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Dave Wood wrote:
Iovuian,
I've concentrated more on the geometry of Oak Island and it's connection to Bacon rather than where Arcadia is,so on that subject I'm open to suggestions and keep an open mind to various theories.

Dave


Well in my research Dave and I have found in the land of the Acadians which were people who were expelled from Nova Scotia by the British
that the symbol of the Oak leaf held a very spiritual meaning for them and they had a very intimate connection with the Indians
as I showed above with the Indian statue at Martinville LA

Freemasonry thrived and flourished in the land of the Acadians .....Albert Pike belonged to the New Orleans Lodges
I don't know if you guys know this but Albert Pike was buried at Oak Hill Cemetery
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It is located on the 77 Meridian near Washington DC

Now Pike really wanted to be cremated but he was buried at Oak Hill and then moved to the Temple

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