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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2017 11:21 am 
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Don't know if this is the right place, but has anybody seen something like this ?


It is made by a plane. I think it was a big one in about 10 000 m altitude, northeast from my position aprox. Carcassonne / France

The plane needs about 10 minutes for one "round" of the spiral.

It is still there in the moment and the plane is at work.


I have made a load of pictures, so that it is sure, that the same plane is doing that.


It's an exact horizontal spiral ! Diameter aprox. 20 KM

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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2017 2:52 pm 
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Hans,
How close to an airport are you? Looks like the plane may be in a stack waiting to land and the atmospheric conditions were right to record that plane's (and /or other planes) trail.

See this http://contrailscience.com/racetrack-contrails/

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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2017 5:06 pm 
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I am 25 km straight line away from Carcassonne.

Think twice Jlo, a waiting plane will never fly in a spiral line (to difficult for the flight controller on the tower )- it uses triangles or circles.
And it was very high I think 10.000m
The spiral was so exact, that only a computer can do it together with the autopilot.

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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2017 5:32 pm 
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Hans,
I would still go for a holding stack.
As far as I know a stack can hold multiple planes, each at a different level. They move down the levels as they approach their landing slot. Not sure if that would give a spiral effect - but multiple plane contrails with a wind pattern could give an illusion of a spiral.

Edited to add: http://ivao.co.uk/atc/egkk/in and https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 014916&z=9

Gatwick holding stacks.....various levels and anywhere between 20-40 km'ish from the airport.

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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2017 7:26 am 
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Hans, I would still go for a holding stack...... but multiple plane contrails with a wind pattern could give an illusion of a spiral......


Yes, and because the pilots have nothing to do while they are waiting in the stack, they fly geometric exact spirals. Just for fun and with loud music and beer.

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Carcassonne airport is a little one, and only used by Air France. They do not need waiting stacks.

By the way, hours after the plane disapeared it began to rain.

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PostPosted: 25 Feb 2017 2:07 pm 
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Vielleicht hat der was ausgestreut, daß die Wolken abregnen?

Wielange war das sichtbar? Kondensstreifen verschwinden innerhalb von 10 Minuten. Alles was länger sichtbar ist, ist sowas wie chemtrails.


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PostPosted: 25 Feb 2017 5:40 pm 
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War ca.30 Minuten an stahlblauen Himmel zu sehen, dann wurde es dunstig und Stunden spaeter hat es geregnet.
Der Regen war aber schon am Vortag angekuendigt.

Es war irgendwie gespenstisch...

Die Kiste war sehr hoch, man konnte sie nicht erkennen, sondern nur den Streifen. Daher schaetze ich 10000-15000 m:
Die Spirale hatte bestimmt 30 KM Durchmesser !
Schwer zu sagen, aber das Zentrum lag etwa ueber Carcassonne.

Meinst du die haben das fuer die Weinbauern gemacht ? :lol:

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PostPosted: 25 Feb 2017 7:39 pm 
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habe d'Ehre!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-ZAZ6bfaIY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M2gW514gr0

http://www.erhoehtesbewusstsein.de/geluftet-fotos-von-chemtrail-flugzeugen-wie-du-sie-noch-nie-gesehen-hast/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+erhoehtesbewusstsein+%28Erh%C3%B6htes+Bewusstsein%29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-V6ekMxZms&feature=player_embedded

http://www.greatdreams.com/chems.htm

http://www.chemtrails-info.de/chemtrails/patente-fuer-chemtrails.htm

https://chemtrailsplanet.net/2014/04/17/aerospace-engineer-confirms-chemtrails-as-covert-aerosol-geoeongineering/

http://www.politaia.org/chemtrails/chemtrail-zusammensetzung/

http://www.politaia.org/chemtrails/chemtrails-den-tatern-auf-der-spur-massachusettsrepublic-org/

und tschüssi! :lol:


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PostPosted: 11 Jul 2017 12:27 am 
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hans peper wrote:
jlockest wrote:
Hans, I would still go for a holding stack...... but multiple plane contrails with a wind pattern could give an illusion of a spiral......


Yes, and because the pilots have nothing to do while they are waiting in the stack, they fly geometric exact spirals. Just for fun and with loud music and beer.

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Carcassonne airport is a little one, and only used by Air France. They do not need waiting stacks.

By the way, hours after the plane disapeared it began to rain.

regards Hans

Carcassonne is used by a few airlines, Ryanair from the UK for one. I've been in a plane to Carca when they have circled multiple times before landing. However those trails do look quite precise. The French airforce also do lots of sorties over the area, also there are the planes that drop water when there is a fire.
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There was no fire at all and in a waiting stack, they do not fly spirals. They use circles.

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PostPosted: 24 Jul 2017 6:57 am 
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hans peper wrote:
There was no fire at all and in a waiting stack, they do not fly spirals. They use circles.

regards Hans

I agree it's strange, must be the aliens ;)
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PostPosted: 24 Jul 2017 11:08 am 
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I think, it was a chemtrail.

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PostPosted: 25 Jul 2017 9:40 am 
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hans peper wrote:
I think, it was a chemtrail.

best regards Hans

Well they have to feed the lizard people somehow :shock:
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