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PostPosted: 15 Aug 2017 6:45 am 
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Many attempts were made to interpret the background of the Fleury Tableau as a real landscape. Unfortunately, there have been no satisfactory results to date.

An interesting possibility arises when one considers the tableau as a triptych. A triptych is a devotional image consisting of three parts. The big middle part and the two wings on the right and left. These wings can be folded so that the middle part is concealed.

One speaks of the "working day position" when it is closed and from the "Sunday position" when it is opened.

The Fleury Tableu has no rotatable wings, but we have the gift of imagination.

Suppose we fold one of the wings, then we see nothing more, because on the back of the wing only plaster and marbles can be seen. Let us imagine now that the wings are painted on glass, then you can see the painting in the closed state. It is now mirrored.

Looking at the "Fleury triptychon", a perfect representation of the landscape results.

The various well-known places are shown as icons. Rennes les Bains is shown as a sunken Roman column and Rennes le Chateau has as an icon Asmodeus, depicted as a rock in the form of the devil's chair and the red plant, which also carries the devil in the name.

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The Fleury Tableau in working day position :
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PostPosted: 15 Aug 2017 4:59 pm 
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My problem with this, is the Devils arms chair is in RLB and the pillar would seem to be the one in RLC.

If there is a clue, I think these are important elements.


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Very intersting take, folding it. I like it.
However I am still leaning towards that it shows a real location in a 3D perspective...
But I would love to be wrong.
Why Serres, why a Roman pillar?

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Serres is from you, BS

and it is a roman pilar

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There definately something with that folding though... bells are ringing. I'll get back to you when I figured out what it is.

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Hans, what happens if you fold it, but do not mirror the side images?

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BS, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triptych

If you close the wings (or you fold them), they become automatic mirrowed.

If you close the wings, you turn them arround their vertical axis !

Take your open window and the lipstick of your wife. Paint a "1" on the window. Then close it and look from the same viewpoint:

The "1" is mirrowed.


The picture we see on the "closed" Fleury Tableau is a 3D landscape, where two of the villages (RlC and RlB) are pointed out as icons and two of the villages (Coustaussa and Serres) are pointed out as buildings. In the background you see the plateau beginning in the left by Coustaussa and running westward to Casseignes. On the foot of Coustaussa, you can see the Salz. If you take a little time and have a closer look, you will identify the scenery.

If you do not mirror them and paste them together, you get a result, which leads to nothing. A lot of people try it befor, but no result.



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Corjan de Raaf made a try to connect the wings in opened position. He was happy to create the rock in the center of the pic. He streched one of the sides a little bit, to make it fit. (I did it not !!)
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But it leads to nothing. If you look at the scene, you are not able to find the landscape. Something is wrong. Coustaussa is there, but on the wrong place. you will feel, that the wings belong together, but something is wrong....





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I took the left panel to be the view towards Arques castle from in the valley:

https://www.google.fr/maps/@42.9516317, ... 312!8i6656

The Devils Armchair on the left being the clue that we start at RLB.


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gladium wrote:
I took the left panel to be the view towards Arques castle from in the valley:



Thats what I thought in the past, but now....

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hans peper wrote:
gladium wrote:
I took the left panel to be the view towards Arques castle from in the valley:



Thats what I thought in the past, but now....

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Ok, I see now, we have a map.
What does it tell us?

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Did anyone knows where the land is, Sauniere bought ?

I think, it is pointet out in the "map"

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hans peper wrote:
Did anyone knows where the land is, Sauniere bought ?

I think, it is pointet out in the "map"

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PM:ed you.

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