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PostPosted: 27 Apr 2016 7:49 am 
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PostPosted: 05 Jul 2016 2:25 am 
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Somehow I participate and am able to observe, but Icremote and I were never pals.

The urn has been repaired by the way. Gus went to school in Taiwan. Taiwan is where

Eric Mader is a professor.


Came across this and look at the name below! Eric Mader.
What is interesting is the subject matter.
http://www.necessaryprose.com/piraeuslion.htm

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The Lion from Piraeus

Visiting Venice recently I found time to take a morning walk to the gates of the Arsenal. I wanted to see the stone lion with the Scandinavian runes carved into its shoulders, the Greek sculpture known as the Piraeus lion. Though I'd long wanted to see inside the Arsenal also--the medieval mother of all shipyards--I knew it had become off limits. I set out to see the lion.

Sculpted of white marble, the Piraeus lion is one of two placed on either side of the Arsenal's entry. Around nine feet tall, the lion is a striking example of the vagaries of history.



The Piraeus Lion.

Originally stationed at the Piraeus harbor near Athens, the two lions were transported to Venice in 1687 by Francesco Morosini after a successful campaign against the Turks. From the beginning it was noticed that one of them had strange markings carved into its shoulders, apparently some kind of writing. Nobody knew the meaning of the writing, however, or even what language it was. Only much later did scholars recognize the markings as runes. It was a puzzling discovery. What were Scandinavian runes doing on a marble lion taken from a Greek port? The inscribed words themselves would answer the question. A guidebook gives one translation of the inscription on the lion's left shoulder:

Hakon, combined with Ulf, with Asmund, and with Orn, conquered this port. These men and Harold the Tall imposed large fines, on account of the revolt of the Greek people. Dalk has been detained in distant lands. Egil was waging war, together with Ragnar, in Romania and Armenia.

According to the runes on the lion's other shoulder, it was Harold the Tall who ordered the inscription, against the wishes of the defeated Greeks. At the time he and his cohorts were working as mercenaries for the Byzantine emperor.

Proof once more of what my grandmother used to say: Those Vikings didn't dress very well, but they sure got around. In an essay about the Scandinavians and their ambiguous conquests, Borges makes a similar point, underlining their odd individualism, how they covered vast territories and raised settlements, only to, culturally speaking, disappear:

Hernan Cortes and Francisco Pizarro conquered lands for their kings: the Vikings' prolonged expeditions were individual. . . . After a century, the Normans (men of the North) who, under Rolf, settled in the province of Normandy and gave it their name, had forgotten their language and were speaking French. . . .

Runic graffiti can still be seen on the marble balustrades of Hagia Sofia in Istanbul, carved ten centuries ago by Vikings who made up part of the Byzantine emperor's imperial guard. One imagines the Northern warriors standing through the Byzantine liturgy, understanding none of it. Restless and bored, one of them begins to scratch in the marble with a knife or the edge of a buckle: Halvdan was here. That, at least, is what the longest bit of graffiti says.

Borges writes of runic inscriptions "scattered across the face of the earth," of Leif Eriksson's expedition to North America and the failed Viking settlement, of the Vikings' books--particularly the Icelanders' great literary tradition of the sagas, how in the twelfth century they developed an advanced art of narrative fiction, a hardboiled realist form whose like wouldn't be seen again in the West until the 19th century. This literature remained a phenomenon entirely of Iceland, utterly without influence on the other people's of Europe:

These facts suffice, in my understanding, to define the strange and futile destiny of the Scandinavian people. In universal history, the wars and books of Scandinavia are as if they had never existed; everything remains isolated and without a trace, as if it had come to pass in a dream or in the crystal balls where clairvoyants gaze. In the twelfth century, the Icelanders discovered the novel--the art of Flaubert, the Norman--and this discovery is as secret and sterile, for the economy of the world, as their discovery of America.

But think of the poor lion. Sculpted to guard a Greek port, it ends up getting inscribed upon by northern henchmen: crooked barbaric characters are chiseled into its once proud shoulders. Later it's dragged to Venice by yet another conqueror, this one Italian. Finally the lion has to suffer being photographed in the morning light by another barbarian of sorts, this one an American in sandals wielding a digital camera made in Japan. The greatest indignity yet?

The Greeks who carved the lion might be glad to know that my camera later malfunctioned and the photos of its shoulders, as well as all my other photos of Venice, were erased. One-hundred-fifty carefully shot images gone in an instant. It's called technological progress.



Inscription on the lion's right shoulder.

Though the runes on the lion's shoulders are much weathered, they are still recognizable, after all these centuries, as runes. The memory chip in my camera however is empty, utterly void and empty. And as for this page you're reading--if you don't print it out it and store it safely, if you don't scratch it into copper or carve it into stone, it will likewise disappear as soon as the Internet crashes along with our own overproud civilization. It's called technological progress.

Eric Mader,
September, 2003

[Photos taken from various Internet sites; Borges' essay, "The Scandinavian Destiny," is in Selected Non-Fictions, ed. Eliot Weinberger.]

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PostPosted: 07 Aug 2016 10:59 pm 
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Speaking of "the horse of Gus":

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The Girona group says that the horse of God is the dolphin, they are near the beach in Catalonia.

Is this Narcissus riding?

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The dolphin as the vehicle of Venus.

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"Enter “Gus Stiver”, small time disinformation troll. I began posting online as “Gus Stiver” in a FB discussion group named, ‘The Truth Behind the Ben Hammott Confession-Hoax’. My message was simple and stupid: Ben Hammott’s confession was itself a hoax — a false confession...."

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PostPosted: 01 Jun 2017 10:50 am 
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Your point in resurrecting this?


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PostPosted: 02 Jun 2017 12:15 am 
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"I was a Small Time Disinformation Troll – Cam Clayton – Medium"

On the fringe of internet conspiracy culture there is the 19th century, provincial village of Rennes-le-Château with its mysteriously…

Coincidentally the Sauniere pulpit baluster containing a replica vial has been put on display in Rennes le Chateau. It is encased in

Plexiglass to prevent theft of the replica vial by curiosity seekers who want to read the message. Whatever does it say?

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Well according to the late messieurs K. Fils d'Emer & the Marquis Gregoire d'Etang - who tackled this conundrum over four decades ago it says ...

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Bienvenue mes amis au spectacle qui ne finit jamais, nous sommes heureux que vous puissiez participer à l'étape suivante, étape par étape.

Entrez, le spectacle est sur le point de commencer ... Garanti pour vous faire taper votre tête
Soyez assuré que vous obtiendrez la valeur de votre argent, le plus grand spectacle au paradis, l'enfer ou la terre.

Faites attention lorsque vous passez, passez, avancez.



Which when translated into modern speak reads something along the lines of....and I quote:


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Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends,We're glad you could attend step inside, step inside.

Come in-side, the show's about to start...Guaranteed to blow your head apart
Rest assured you'll get your money's worth, Greatest show in Heaven, Hell or Earth.

Be careful as you pass, move along, move along.


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PostPosted: 02 Jun 2017 7:07 pm 
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I'll have really to get Gus Stiver's wonderful book as I've been told I get a name check in it ! :P


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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2017 8:27 pm 
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Sheila wrote:
Well according to the late messieurs K. Fils d'Emer & the Marquis Gregoire d'Etang - who tackled this conundrum over four decades ago it says ...

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Bienvenue mes amis au spectacle qui ne finit jamais, nous sommes heureux que vous puissiez participer à l'étape suivante, étape par étape.

Entrez, le spectacle est sur le point de commencer ... Garanti pour vous faire taper votre tête
Soyez assuré que vous obtiendrez la valeur de votre argent, le plus grand spectacle au paradis, l'enfer ou la terre.

Faites attention lorsque vous passez, passez, avancez.



Which when translated into modern speak reads something along the lines of....and I quote:


Quote:
Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends,We're glad you could attend step inside, step inside.

Come in-side, the show's about to start...Guaranteed to blow your head apart
Rest assured you'll get your money's worth, Greatest show in Heaven, Hell or Earth.

Be careful as you pass, move along, move along.


You may recall that my first post was a (facetious) claim that you were hinting that you wanted us to deconstruct the ELP symbol to form a Crista representation!

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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2017 5:50 am 
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I certainly do Caelum, 8) something I'll never forget.


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